WA6DLQ and WA6PYE hid the transmitter at the intersection of the 241 toll road and Portola in Irvine. I think it was Irvine I am not sure. In any event, we were trying to reflect the signal off PV. It worked to some degree although by the time you got to the 57 and Katella it was pretty much a direct signal; most hunters told me. Deryl's (N6AIN) vehicle developed an alternator problem at the start point and he had to limp home like Apollo 13 and was unable to hunt